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Dday
We had some bad weather last night and like a dumb ass i left my comp on. Well all the electronics flickered off for a sec and came back on..TV, Microwave etc... And i heard a loud pop that sounded like it came from my comp. Well i went to turn it back on and it wouldn't power up. So the first thing i did was check the outlets...they worked...then i checked the power stip..it was fine. So i then assumed my PSU fried. I went today and bought a new one, went home hooked it up and still nothing. The PSU isn't powering up at all. Wouldn't it still power up even if the MOBO was fried? idk..any ideas?
Rifleman
How do you know it isn't powering up?
Dday
QUOTE(Rifleman @ Apr 18 2008, 07:35 PM)
How do you know it isn't powering up?


It's not turning on. Fan doesn't move...no lights turn on. My whole computer doesn't turn on.
Is that what you were asking? I tried several different outlets and it still doesn't work.
Santana Claws
Maybe something fried on the motherboard? Have you checked everything carefully? Usually smell is an obvious indication that something is damaged. If everything is intact, there are a few things you could do, like discharging the capacitors, which requires you turn your PSU off and unplug it so the motherboard light turns off, then plugging it back in and starting it up.
Dday
QUOTE(Santana Claws @ Apr 18 2008, 07:52 PM)
Maybe something fried on the motherboard?  Have you checked everything carefully?  Usually smell is an obvious indication that something is damaged.  If everything is intact, there are a few things you could do, like discharging the capacitors, which requires you turn your PSU off and unplug it so the motherboard light turns off, then plugging it back in and starting it up.


I couldn't smell anything.
I just went today and bought a new PSU and put it in my comp. So that would of discharged the capacitors.
The MOBO looks fine. Nothing noticeably wrong w/ it.
Rifleman
The fan and lights don't normally do anything until it's supplying power.
Dday
QUOTE(Rifleman @ Apr 18 2008, 08:00 PM)
The fan and lights don't normally do anything until it's supplying power.

So does that mean you're leaning more toward the MOBO being fried?
Rifleman
Yes because the chances of your new PSU being DOA isn't very likely.
Dday
I was thinking it was my MOBO but i was praying it wasn't..wishful thinking i guess. Was kinda hoping there could possibly be something else causing it. Thanks.
WolfXI
surge protector > regular power outlets.

especially when it comes to pc's.
Elanzer
Question seeming we're semi-on the topic, why is it all North American homes seem to have such inadequate electrical protection? I've noticed that during storms a lot of people routinely unplug valuables, or mention that a storm killed them after. Surge protectors on cables here only really serve the paranoid / rare cases / regular lightning targets. I'm hardly an electrical expert but don't you guys have fuses, circuit breakers, trip switches as standard? I know the American 2-pin plugs lack fuses, but surely there's something else to compensate for it somewhere in the circuit?
Santana Claws
I think people just don't use proper plugs and surge protectors. I don't think I ever power down during a storm.
Elanzer
Eh, I definitely recall you saying once before about not unplugging something or other. What is a proper plug?
Dday
lol well yes we do have circuit breakers and i WAS using a serge protector. I'm not a nub. Of course not turning it off was dumb..but whatever. This is the first time anything like this has happened to me. I live in an apartment and i think the wiring isn't up to par...idk. but not only did my computer fry, so did the modem and my house phone.
Either way, i did fix my comp. I just replaced the MOBO. Started right up. Thx for the feedback.
Santana Claws
QUOTE(Elanzer @ Apr 19 2008, 02:24 PM)
Eh, I definitely recall you saying once before about not unplugging something or other. What is a proper plug?

I guess by proper plug I mean people using power strips and surge protectors instead of just plugging shit straight into the wall.
Elanzer
That's exactly my point, why do you all have to rely on buying aftermarket surge protectors? And why do you make plugging something straight into the wall sound so dangerous?

QUOTE(Dday @ Apr 21 2008, 01:32 PM)
lol well yes we do have circuit breakers and i WAS using a serge protector.  I'm not a nub.  Of course not turning it off was dumb..but whatever.

And here's a good example of what I was mentioning earlier, I often see a lot of people constantly mentioning that they seem to have to power things off, in this case even when there's supposed protection. Do they not work or something?
Dday
QUOTE(Elanzer @ Apr 21 2008, 04:44 PM)
And here's a good example of what I was mentioning earlier, I often see a lot of people constantly mentioning that they seem to have to power things off, in this case even when there's supposed protection. Do they not work or something?


Lol.. Surge protectors should work but they don't always work. Same for most electronics. Sometimes you get a defected one..it happens..In my case, my surge protector didn't work. But it did work on my fiances comp. Her comp was hooked up on the same outlet but w/ a different surge protector. Her comp survived. As for turning off the pc's...i like to do it, not only for the above reason, but i also don't like my computers just shutting off due to the power flickering off and on. I like them to be shut down manually...not randomly.
Is the US the only place that has power surges?
It's not like an every day event. We had 2 bad storms in the past 2 weeks. This last storm is the one that got me. Other than the past couple weeks...my electricity rarely gets interupted.
Maybe it has to do w/ the american 110v rather than the 220v. I don't know tho..never thought about it. I didn't know "we" were the only ones that used surge protectors or considered turning off our electronics for extra safety measures.
Santana Claws
If you're plugged directly into a wall the wiring can normally handle getting a surge of electricity from lightning, but that electricity will surge into whatever you've got plugged into the wall outlet. Depending on how sensitive the appliance is to electricity, it may fry if it receives too much voltage. The surge protector defends against the electrical spikes by coating its wiring in silicone (if I remember correctly) thus negating the surge in voltage. Plus surge protectors have a ton of outlets, so I can plug all my shit into it. Things like this happen to people everywhere.
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