Few weeks ago my dad bought a Asus EAH3850 for me
It runs smooth at games.
I can play COD4, Bioshock, Timeshift & Crysis properly without any problems.
Just a bit of lag with UT3.
My friend had an idea in his head popped.
And wanted another new vid card. So my dad bought for him an Gforce 8800GT
So what im thinkin is, that im gonna sell my Asus vidcard. And with that money
i'll buy an Gforce 8800GTS. but is it worth the selling & buying?
Or do you guys got any other ideas wich vidcard i can buy?
Please remind of posting the price. So i if i gotta go to work or not
I toke a picceh of my Asus, my excuse for the blurr.



Thxs ^^

Thread title reeks of wrong.

But anyway, unless you're stinking rich (if your dad is buying your friends GPUs, I guess you are, or maybe his brain really did pop) it's not economical to upgrade to an 8800GT. You'd be ditching your current card for one that's what... 5% faster under some conditions? and about the same percentage higher in price too. Not worth it. If you're seriously struggling with UT3 even with a 3850 I imagine there's another part of your system letting you down. But if you insist on another card go for the shiny new yet cheap 9600GT.

Okay thanks.
Well, it doesnt really bothers me that im lagging for UT3.
I didnt bought the game anyway but as far as i know its forbidden to speak about illegal software/downloads.
So ill drop it like its hot ^^
Well i think i gotta buy a new processor and some extra memory.
Actually i bought new 1GB but is it possible to show me how to install?
I clicked it into my motherboard but when i open my System Information with TuneUp,
im having still the same capacity memory only 2.5GB
And i still got that stupid Intel Core D with 2.80GHz.

Edit: I just installed and played Crysis. Very nice game (BORAT). All my options are on High settings, but i cant select Extra high. Think i need that 'a bit more' . Should it make a difference with a new processor?

(oh god, my english has gone bad)
Great quote tho'

The 8800GTS is quite a bit more than 5% faster than the 3850, Elanzer isn't too clued up on the latest technolomogies. The 9600GT is a good card and is about on par with the 3870 and a little bit below the 8800GT, though your low performance is probably due to your Pentium D and not your memory or card, stuff like the 8800's and 2900\3800 series from ATI are only really worth it if you have a higher end AMD chip or a Core 2 Duo.

As for Crysis, well if you're saying you can run it fine on high then something doesn't sound right here if you're then having problems with UT3, but the Very High Options are Vista only, though you can get custom configs that enable some of the settings and improve others.

I'm "not clued up on the latest technologies", yet you pretty much repeat my suggestions? Go away troll.

I could of sworn it said GT earlier, but eh, I wasn't suggesting it was precisely 5% faster anyway so it doesn't matter even if it is the GTS you were planning on, they're similar enough. Point was unless you want to play in 2 megapixel+ resolutions, and on your system you won't, it's not worth it because it's not enough of an improvement to warrant the money you'd be wasting. But if you insist on a new card like I said - 9600GT because: A, it's got the price of a mid-range card with performance on par with the former series high-end cards, and B, because it's as far as you can get from scabby 8 series 2.5 year old tech.

Haha
Well, i think i'll give the 9600GT a shot.
Besides, this weekend im at my dads home.
Ill catch you up later what he says.

Well the rest of your system is what's letting you down, you should fix that first, but it'll cost.

I said how it was in fact faster than you made out and that it would be a good choice but that his cpu was letting him down which you did not, go away troll.


That I had no issue with, just the power of the card.

Would the processor do the job?

Your current one wouldn't but a new one would.

Seems to me like I quite clearly said other parts of his system were letting him down, before he even gave his specs. Got no time to argue this blatant trolling of yours and give you what you seem to want, enjoy suspension instead.

Auw. That hurts.
Hm, then i think ill have another subject to convince my father with.
Well ill keep you guys up to date.

9600GT is cheap and itll run COD4 on all high nicely.

So does my EAH3850, Ive completed the game.

So then how is the 9600 in comparison to an 8800 GT or GTS in terms of performance? Mind you I wont go higher than 1280 by 1024 in resolution because anything bigger that that is just stupid on my display. I'm wanting to SLI in about 2 months because my 7900 is kicking the bucket, and the rest of my system is very solid already.

The 8800GTS in your average application is about 5FPS faster than the 8800GT and the 9600GT around 5-10FPS below the 8800GT, though naturally as a mid-range card if you increase the resolution into 1600+ territory or play a graphically intensive game that latter gap starts to increase significantly.

Nova why don't you try Overclocking your card abit ? it could give you great results and for free . Carefull not to toast it though.

Ok, so they've all got about the same performance-ish? Except if I try to go to higher resolutions, the 9600 will start to get bogged down because its a mid-range card?

what a coinsedience (OMFG??) that i was reading in a software magazine and i found the 9600GT for only €199.
As i said before that my dad bought an Gforce 8800GT for my friend. It lays here on my desk right now, and i doubt wich one i should buy, an 9600GT or Nvidia 8800GT, or i keep my EAH3850. I had an discussion with my father this afternoon about wich new processor i should buy. He heard that an AMD Athlon is perfect for gaming. But i prefer an Dualcore or Quadcore. Whats your opinion?


Hm, i had that earlier in my mind but i was afraid for toasting it. Ill give it a try tomorrow when i return back home. I wished i had an garranty on it. Ill keep the forums up if im overclocking, thanks

Get a Core2, doesn't matter if it's a duo or a quad right now, but if you have the cash obviously go for the latter and future-proof yourself.

Ok, thanks.
Ill tell it to my SSAM Suit.
timeshift ! *beeeeep*

Nova you so silly

im mentally retarded.
lol
Get back ontopic

you can increase the clocks carefully ,say like +20 MHZ at a time and see how it goes . Also there are letterally hundreds of guides all over the web that you can check out for help .i'm telling you ;if you get this right you can get 10-15 % performance gain (depends on the game,card chipset...etc).

Ha, You won't get that much without serious overclocking, watercooling, and a card that's suitable that you don't mind keeping very long because it will die early. For an amateur and an air-cooled card think more along the lines of 5% increase at absolute max. Overclocking isn't all it's cracked up to be.

well...I did say it was game depended ,here I'll prove it :this is my 7100 GS default clocks 350 MHZ core and 333 MHZ memory . I Overclocked it to 490 MHZ core and 508 MHZ memory . Then I tested it on CSS with all high:default clock 7 fps ,Overclocked 12.5 fps , thats almost 40% increase in performance .so yes it is possible to get even higher than 15% in some cases .

With my vidcard there was an software program included for overclocking.
But should i risk it?

I wouldn't exactly call it a risk if you know what you are doing besides you won't need much Overclocking cause you have a good card ,tell you what ,Overclock it only when you want to play UT3 ,and revert back to default clocks when you quit it.

Oh come on, that card is such a heap of shit even the slightest natural 2FPS deviations you get through no overclocking at all due to that test's unreliability would of equalled a miraculous-sounding 25% improvement or whatever it works out to. Don't be a Rifleman, you get the point, they can't be compared to the proper cards we're referring to that can actually run games smoothly, and with those, casual overclocking will scarcely get you a 5% increase.

Don't be a Rifleman... thats a good one lol

I'm not being like rifle or anything like that ,I was simply trying to help.but since you mentioned it the test results were pretty constant on the same frequancy with a margin of error around 0.4 fps on my card .also to be fair some other games didn't seem too affected by Overclocking,maybe 5% gain or so.as for a DX10 card I have no idea about how well can it be Overclocked.

Ive just installed Smartdoctor. For those who don't know what it is. ASUS SmartDoctor is a powerful utility designed for three major goals. Overclocking, monitoring and cooling.
The ASUS SmartDoctor monitors the temperature, voltage and fan speed to ensure the graphics card's optimum performance. It alerts you if any abnormal event is detected. Another function by SmartDoctor is GPU cooling. SmartDoctor supports manual fan speed control , SmartCooling technology that automatically cools down the graphic chip by accelerating the fan speed and decreasing the core clock and Auto Fan Control that automatically adjust fan speed by adjusting core clock.

But as my lazyness beats me, i rather ask some help from you then if i tire my eyes with reading a whole manual book. What do i have to change for having better graphics? I thought it is Engine, is that right? Here's a little screenie.

It won't change your graphics.

Performance*
Its 4.30 in the morning and i need some heavely sleep.

free?

You should raise both engine(core) and memory clocks in order to get a good Overclock , I would start by adding 50MHZ to each .watch out for two things though : the tempreture and any sort of graphics distortions in game ,also revert back to default clocks when you don't need heavy duty graphics(ie..games your card can handle on its own).

Jupz, im back. And my dad pre-ordered an pc. But before i buy it. I wanna have your opinions about it. If you want the software too. I'll shall post it. Im a bit hurried, cuz i gotta go but wanted to post it quickly. Ill gave bigger information later this day.

* Intel® Viiv™ processortechnology with Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q6600: 8MB L2-cache, 2.4 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB
* 3072 MB DDR2 SDRAM werkgeheugen
* harde schijf van 500 GB
* ASUS EAH High-Performance videocard, 256 MB DDR2 SDRAM, DirectX® 10 & HDCP-support
* multinorm Dual Layer DVD/CD-Burner (3): supports all DVD/CD-standars
* ingebouwde multikaartlezer (7)
* Quick WLAN: Integrated WLAN (5) IEEE 802.11 n-Draft with 300 Mbit/s, compatibel with IEEE 802.11 b/g. (5)
* Fast Ethernet LAN 10/100/ Mbit/sec.
* eSATA-connection for connection on external SATA-apparaten
* build-in 3-in-1 tv-tuner: DVB-T (1/2), DVB-S (2), analoge TV
* 8-channel High Definition Audio - digital homecinema experience with optimal sound (6)

It could carry some grammar faults. Cuz i had to translate it to english. My excuse.
Btw, this pc with new keyboard mouse and speakers (and of course other accesoires)
for €800, that's $1252.87 i think? is it right? It's not that much here in Europe

They don't provide a model name/number for the graphics card... It could be something worse than you have already.

no no, normally its another graphics card. but i just typed mine in it. Mine is better.

So you're putting your current one into the new PC?

Yes, as far as i know the stock one is a NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600 GT
I doubt it that this one is better then my current one right?

Right.

But if you know how to change parts, why don't you just make your own instead of bothering with an off the shelf shitbox?

Wait, what is his current one?

Nevermind Elanzer told me, If you do deciude to do your own which is very easy then take a look at this guide.

http://www.corsair.com/systembuild/print.a...report_id=12472

Hm, i'll check it out later. Its not that hard to change an vidcard.
Why should i buy a whole complete new 'self configured' pc, instead of buying a good one, except the Vcard?

Because it's cheaper and you get a better PC.

Thats actually a pretty nifty guide... I'm going to bookmark that