Ok I made 3 differnt versions of this, and i'm having a hard time getting imput from anyone else so here I am.

Yes they are all .png's, and yes they have have transparent parts to them. the "KROSS" stands for "Killers Rudely Out Shootin' Suckas" my current clan, and the one I have been a member of, for over a year now. Its almost sad to think that it took me this long to get to this point. hmm..







these are the ones that are currently in use by the clan, I think they suck, but meh who is to decide such things ya?



So what do you guys think? anything I should change about the three uptop?

3 more versions

Needs moar aliasing.

if you give me the font I can. but I'm using something that some one else made, and so I have liimited thing I can do the improve the edge, nextly you guys know that i don't have a working copy of Photoshop (makes a very sad face)

Im gonna be honest.

Just dont bother trying to do good gfx if you dont have photoshop or another program with the same amount of functionality.

Though I'll say that you've probably done a lot better than I ever could without photoshop, lol

Oh, and dont use other peoples work in your own gfx, kinda gay imho.

You don't need photoshop at all...i've seen people do awesome work in GIMP.

All my willy drawings are done with MSN. I see no one complaining.

Who doesn't like a good willy?

Doesnt GIMP have about the same amount of functionality?

And which program does Arch use?

Paint.Net there Scud

and yea i used a skull made by some one else, but the text is a font that a guy in my clan found and made a png for the clan leader to use as a site logo, i just wanted to make a better one so we could place that in our clan maps for TF2. perhaps i should post a few of the newer versions of the ever evolving logo up here?