The_Sorrow
Jul 24 2008, 05:31 PM
I'm looking to get a new PC for myself because I'm tired of fapping on the family computer. I've gone through newegg a bit and picked out some parts and all of the stuff that I'll need (I think). I just need a little help on getting the right finishing parts (cooling and other shit). Price isn't really a problem since I'll be starting work soon and pretty much all of my money will be used for this PC. I'm flexible, but I wouldn't want it over $2,000 USD. Here's a list of all the parts I've put together so far. Let me know if you have suggestions to add/remove parts.
Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811144100Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813131196Graphics card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814102748Power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817153039Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115037Memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820227298Hard drive (two of these):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822135106Disk drives (1 or 2):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827106228Sound card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16829102005CPU cooling (I'm not sure if I need this desperately):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835101011Case fan:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835106116Memory cooling (also not sure):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835202003Keyboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16823175005Mouse:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16826153022Grand total of all those parts is $1,393 USD. Thoughts/suggestions on better parts? More cooling, blah blah? Any help would be appreciated because I'm a newb when it comes to some of this.
Guns For Sale
Jul 24 2008, 05:41 PM
I would suggest getting a quad core. (prices on them went down anyway too)
And i would ditch the soundcard. Your mobo has onboard sound.
Santana Claws
Jul 24 2008, 06:14 PM
Quads are worthless for gaming.
Get a soundcard, it'll free up CPU usage. You could get a Raptor for your OS and games and one massive SATA drive, or two sata drives and raid them. 2 80 gigs won't be enough if you plan on fappin it all the time.
For cooling I just have a bunch of fans, since I'm using stock cooling on everything. A lot of your cooling looks like you want to do some srs overclocking. My CPU runs so cool that I believe I could reasonably overclock it without a problem.
Rifleman
Jul 24 2008, 06:15 PM
Get a different case without a power supply if you're buying one anyway.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822152098Get that drive instead, it's more than 3 times the space and cheaper than two of those as well. Don't bother with the memory cooling you won't need it and the CPU includes a cooler anyway which will be fine if you're leaving it stock, get an aftermarket one if you want to though.
I'd also suggest against an X-Fi and either stay with onboard or get an Asus DX instead, apart from the many problems the X-Fi can have the sound quality is also sub par compared to other dedicated ones.
I'll also recommend changing the PSU for this corsair, despite the lower wattage it'll power more things than the thermaltake.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817139002I'd get a quad core if the Q6600 is a similar price, it'll easily do 3GHz on air and you will notice the difference while multi-tasking or if you;re playing some of the games that use them, and will use them in the future.
The_Sorrow
Jul 24 2008, 06:30 PM
Awesome, thanks for the suggestions guys. It lowered the price about $200. Also, I put the quad core in there because its only $15 more. Will that Corsair PSU be okay for the quad core?
Santana Claws
Jul 24 2008, 06:37 PM
I'm also preferential to nVidia over ATI, but that's just me.
Crazy Asian
Jul 24 2008, 06:41 PM
If you were to get an X-Fi...I'd just go with the music one...
Guns For Sale
Jul 24 2008, 06:42 PM
QUOTE(The_Sorrow @ Jul 24 2008, 06:30 PM)
Awesome, thanks for the suggestions guys. It lowered the price about $200. Also, I put the quad core in there because its only $15 more. Will that Corsair PSU be okay for the quad core?
Good, because games are going to start using them.
Also just because it is bad for gaming, don't mean it is bad for other things anyway. I'm sure you will be doing more beside gaming anyway.
Also what quad core you going with?
Rifleman
Jul 24 2008, 07:00 PM
QUOTE(The_Sorrow @ Jul 24 2008, 07:30 PM)
Awesome, thanks for the suggestions guys. It lowered the price about $200. Also, I put the quad core in there because its only $15 more. Will that Corsair PSU be okay for the quad core?
Yes the corsair is more than enough for the Quad, it can supply even more power the the components than the 700w due to the rails.
QUOTE(Santana Claws @ Jul 24 2008, 07:37 PM)
I'm also preferential to nVidia over ATI, but that's just me.
ATi just happens to hold the price to performance crown right now.
And a Quad is not bad for gaming at all, it'll be exactly like a dual core for games and even better in those that make use of it.
Elanzer
Jul 24 2008, 07:24 PM
That's not entirely true, there is a small performance hit with quad cores in games that can't make use of them when compared to equal dual cores. Although overclocking negates that quite nicely. Also like mentioned games are slowly catching up with the technology.
Rifleman
Jul 24 2008, 07:47 PM
QUOTE(Elanzer @ Jul 24 2008, 08:24 PM)
That's not entirely true, there is a small performance hit with quad cores in games that can't make use of them when compared to equal dual cores. Although overclocking negates that quite nicely. Also like mentioned games are slowly catching up with the technology.
I've never seen anything to suggest they perform worse in games that can't support them when compared to a dual core of the same spec. Not saying it isn't true I'm just interested by it and would like to have a look.
Elanzer
Jul 24 2008, 09:10 PM
Eh I don't have any specific data at hand. It's basically what you'd expect really, only desktop/rendering/encoding tasks take advantage of multi-threading enough to overcome the clock deficit of quad cores when compared to their equally priced dual core counterparts. Overall for gaming/non-multithreaded applications, unless overclocking, the dual core was for the most part the better performer for the price.
Rifleman
Jul 24 2008, 09:31 PM
Just the way you worded it made it sound like quads were always slower then a dual core clocked the same.
WolfXI
Jul 24 2008, 10:14 PM
QUOTE(Elanzer @ Jul 24 2008, 12:24 PM)
That's not entirely true, there is a small performance hit with quad cores in games that can't make use of them when compared to equal dual cores. Although overclocking negates that quite nicely. Also like mentioned games are slowly catching up with the technology.
Couldn't that also be corrected by ctrl +alt + del and setting it to just one core.
Elanzer
Jul 24 2008, 10:32 PM
Eh... no.
See above, the issue is down to clock speeds. If you take a quad core at almost every price range and compare it to the nearest priced dual core, the dual core will generally have 15-25% (or whatever it is) higher clocks, which means unless the application is 'quad-threaded', the quad core loses its only advantage and naturally the dual core wins due to having natively higher clocks.
The_Sorrow
Jul 26 2008, 08:19 AM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811105017y/n? Got a lot of stock cooling and space so I thought it might be good.
Santana Claws
Jul 26 2008, 09:14 AM
I'd get an ATX full tower just so space isn't an issue. Lian-Li makes some pretty solid cases.
Rifleman
Jul 26 2008, 01:20 PM
I'd stay with a mid, full tower is unneeded.
HCalibre
Jul 27 2008, 06:44 PM
Eeh. With the faster processors, cards and all that they do tend to overheat. I lost my sound card to one (Fortunately it wasn't a hugely expensive one, but wwas still annoying) and though the cooling systems have advanced, not quite as much as the speed. So I still think the extra space and such is useful for ventilation and stuff. Plus easier to change stuff around, e.g. getting out your video card won't lost you a processor in the process ^^
Rifleman
Jul 27 2008, 07:20 PM
That doesn't happen anyway if you're careful when you do things and make sure cables are tidied.
Santana Claws
Jul 27 2008, 08:13 PM
I just shove all my loose cables into the space for drive bays.
Downloaded
Jul 27 2008, 08:41 PM
I eat my loose cables. Sons of bitches don't stay loose for long.
Guns For Sale
Jul 27 2008, 08:54 PM
All my wiring in in that netting/mesh wrap/sleeves stuff, and the rest if zip tied so it is pretty clean.
Santana Claws
Jul 28 2008, 12:14 AM
That reminds me, I've got some zip ties lying around with the sleeve kit I bought for my previous PSU last year... must find nao.
Downloaded
Jul 28 2008, 01:08 AM
Nice avi santana.
Elanzer
Jul 28 2008, 05:27 AM
OH OH LET ME HAVE MY TURN TOO.
Cable ties.
Rifleman
Jul 28 2008, 05:43 AM
QUOTE(Elanzer @ Jul 28 2008, 06:27 AM)
OH OH LET ME HAVE MY TURN TOO.
Cable ties.
QUOTE(Guns For Sale @ Jul 27 2008, 09:54 PM)
All my wiring in in that netting/mesh wrap/sleeves stuff, and the rest if zip tied so it is pretty clean.
Santana Claws
Jul 28 2008, 05:45 AM
QUOTE(Downloadilocks @ Jul 27 2008, 08:08 PM)
Nice avi santana.
Danke.
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