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batmAn IVē
Okay, so I can't handle not having a PC anymore. I'm even posting this at a friends house. I beg of you kind people, please help me pick out some new parts. My Case and power supply (antect tp 2 550 watts) are still good. I need...

CPU
RAM
Motherboard
Video Card
And OS (Not sure to go vista or XP, considering I really want DX10 to be fully functional)

I'd do it myself but I haven't kept up with the PC knowledge over the passed year.

Please help me out guys? And lets keep it under 700 bucks if possible.
I made one before that hit 651, but wasn't sure if it was even that great, and I was too dumb to save the links, as I'm not at my house haha.

Thanks<3
Rifleman
I'll have a look later but basically Core 2 Sexual Duo and Vista, then acquire XP.
MoonPig
wait a week for the 4870's to lower in price, then get one of them. As for processor, get an E8400 or similar. You can keep the proce of the mobo low, the same with the RAM.

And get Vista, people who complain about it haven't used it long enough. Ive had it three weeks and its great. I feel its better than XP.
Rifleman
Do you play any games like Sup Com etc?
[The_Minotaur]
QUOTE(MoonPig @ Jun 26 2008, 08:24 AM)
wait a week for the 4870's to lower in price, then get one of them. As for processor, get an E8400 or similar. You can keep the proce of the mobo low, the same with the RAM.

And get Vista, people who complain about it haven't used it long enough. Ive had it three weeks and its great. I feel its better than XP.



Ohhh, lol, ATI. Heres something i whipped up in 5 minutes:
EVGA 9600GT
Core 2 Quad E6600
Vista home Premium
ASUS P5K Pro
Mushkin DDR2 1066 RAM 1GB

You can change around the RAM, its pretty cheap but it won't hold back the quad like if you got an E8400 or the like, and it should last quite a while, i can play crysis on my 9600GT on medium with no problems, and i have a crappy E4300. Total comes to 625 without shipping costs, and 2 sticks of RAM for a total of 2 gigs
batmAn IVē
this is probably asking alot out of a 700 dollar budget, but i want it to be able to run pretty much everything on high.

that does include crysis. It's gotta be possible haha

i want to run the high end stuff
[The_Minotaur]
QUOTE(batmAn IVē @ Jun 26 2008, 12:19 PM)
this is probably asking alot out of a 700 dollar budget, but i want it to be able to run pretty much everything on high.

that does include crysis. It's gotta be possible haha

i want to run the high end stuff


That is asking way to much for 700 dollars, i have a system in the making that is supposedly able to run Crysis on Very High that is at a minimum of $1500 atm, and for High settings you need SLI or atleast a 9800GX2, not to mention a better processor to keep up, i think you could use the one i put together as a stepping stone while saving up for more powerful graphics, but for 700 dollars your gonna come up short
Elanzer
All I'll add to this thread is:

- Fuck DX10/Vista, there's nothing to gain by going there but a lot to lose.
- Knowing you, if you only spend $700, you'll be bitching to me in no time about how you can't run games.
- If you are going all-out, you don't need SLI or an 9800GX2, you need one of the new cards.
batmAn IVē
Define New cards?

I mean, im still up to speed with all my hardware knowledge except Video cards. Im not sure whats good anymore.

I just found this for a total of 625

• IntelŪ Core™2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz
• NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI MBoard
• 2GB PC6400 DDR2 RAM
• 320GB 7200RPM SATA-II HD
• NVIDIA GF 8500GT 1GB 16X Video
Rifleman
That card is terrible and you'd also probably be better off getting a slightly lower clocked processor and taking the 5 minutes to overclock it, it'll save you money and allow better hardware in more important areas.

Also by new cards I think Elanzer means the GTX 260 / 280 or the 4870.
[The_Minotaur]
QUOTE(batmAn IVē @ Jun 26 2008, 01:40 PM)
Define New cards?

I mean, im still up to speed with all my hardware knowledge except Video cards. Im not sure whats good anymore.


Heh, well, i forgot to read up on the R700, i thought it was just another card from ATI, lol. Anyway, if you can wait a bit longer, get a 4870 and keep the rest of the stuff i listed earlier
Rifleman
There's no point getting such high end other components if you're going to have just 1GB of RAM Minotaur. I'm looking around now by the way, not just trolling.
batmAn IVē
Well I mean. Look at it like this. I have a budget, and I want to be able to play pretty much everything currently out on moderately high settings. My old PC held up pretty nicely, until it caught fire. =(
Rifleman
I know you have a budget but understand that card is worse than a 7600 GT which in turn is slightly faster than the 6800GT so it's worse than your current 7800.
[The_Minotaur]
QUOTE(Rifleman @ Jun 26 2008, 01:50 PM)
There's no point getting such high end other components if you're going to have just 1GB of RAM Minotaur. I'm looking around now by the way, not just trolling.

I figured he could have added more himself if he wanted to, i said in my post with the included links that everything there and two stick of RAM for 2 gigs total would be ~$625 not including shipping
Rifleman
You said it wouldn't hold it back which it would, let's not crap this thread by arguing. Specing up.
[The_Minotaur]
QUOTE(Rifleman @ Jun 26 2008, 02:23 PM)
You said it wouldn't hold it back which it would, let's not crap this thread by arguing. Specing up.

How would it hold it back? I'm obviously missing something and this is a good time to learn, i have no intent to argue about this.
Rifleman
ASUS P5K PRO
E8200 Wolfdale 2.66GHz
HD 4870 512MB
OCZ 2GB 800MHz

It doesn't have an OS yet but is there anyway you could transfer over your current licence? Also you get get rid of the 4870 and get a GTS 512 if you really want to but Operating Systems aren't hard to change later on, you could always get Minotaur's stick and get another later, yes it will hold it back for a but but it's better than being just OK for ever. If you wait a little while until the 4870 drops in price then you may be able to shove in XP in there.
batmAn IVē
i actually do have an XP disc lying around


wait... is that RAM laptop ram?
[The_Minotaur]
QUOTE(batmAn IVē @ Jun 26 2008, 05:37 PM)
i actually do have an XP disc lying around
wait... is that RAM laptop ram?

Yes, it is....
Rifleman
Oh poop it is, fixed.
batmAn IVē
...fixed? i clicked it again, still says laptop ram silly goose. lol
Rifleman
Don't click so fast you mong, fixed now.
batmAn IVē
ahh...thanks...sigh. i hope i can get money now lol
batmAn IVē
so i just got my parts and im about ready to build... but i noticed something and im really worrried.

My GPU (4870) says its Pcie 2.0

My motherboard says nothing about 2.0

...is this bad?

(exact parts on the page before this, rifleman posted)
[The_Minotaur]
QUOTE(batmAn IVē @ Aug 7 2008, 12:48 AM)
so i just got my parts and im about ready to build... but i noticed something and im really worrried.

My GPU (4870) says its Pcie 2.0

My motherboard says nothing about 2.0

...is this bad?

(exact parts on the page before this, rifleman posted)

No, there is no problem with using a PCI-E 2.0 card in a regular x16 slot that is on your motherboard, I am doing it right now with my 9600GT, and i have had no problems, and performance isn't affected at all. Quote from wiki "PCIe 2.0 is backward and forward compatible with PCIe v1.x. Graphic cards and motherboards designed for v2.0 will be able to work with v1.1 and v1.0, and vice versa."
Elanzer
Like said above, if your motherboard doesn't support PCI-E 2.0 but your card does, or vice versa, then it will just function like regular PCI-E.

The benefit of PCI-E 2.0 is doubling bandwidth.
batmAn IVē
Phew thanks guys. Gunna assemble it in about 2 hours
batmAn IVē
Awesome. so i built it all, and NOTHING turns on.

i cant take this shit anymore.

i guess i need a new psu now too
Rifleman
You've put all the stand offs under the motherboard and connected all the motherboard power cables and made sure the graphics card is in and has the power properly connected, and you have actually turned the switch on the back of it haven't you? It's most likely something you have or haven't done than a faulty PSU.
WolfXI
most likely you just missed something. just check everything basically.

whats your current psu now?
batmAn IVē
i did everything. i definately dont think I missed anything...

and its an Antec True Power 2, 550 watts
Rifleman
Double check then, and have your dots back, you're the one asking for help.
batmAn IVē
Have my dots back? lol.

I dont think Im missing anything, but I could definately be wrong. i think im going to bring it in to my local Microcenter tommorow. If I missed something, theyd tell me, and if my PSU is busted, theyd tell me. Win win situation.
Elanzer
Is the motherboard power light (if there is one) on ?
batmAn IVē
there is one, it was on for like... 3 seconds, and then went off.
Elanzer
Not been on since? Anything else happen when it decided to turn off?
batmAn IVē
Just determined its the powersupply. Had a family friend whose a computer tech come over with a tool.

So! Power Supply Suggestions?
Elanzer
Get one of these and copy my setup moar.

You get a fancy velcro pouch for keeping the spare cables in wub.gif
batmAn IVē
Is the 520 enough to support the 4870 and e8400?

and this mobo?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813131275
Elanzer
I'm typing this now aren't I?

Unless you go adding a slew of new drives, devices, and SLI/Crossfiring etc. it's fine.
batmAn IVē
Hey, I just gotta check.

What about The Antec True Power Trios?
Rifleman
Yes but I'd pay the extra for the 620w if you plan to upgrade in future.

Antec are good but I'd go with corsair.
batmAn IVē
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817139006

Picked up that one. Cost me 100 bucks where i got it though some mail in rebates.
Rifleman
Massive overkill.
batmAn IVē
Yeah i know, but it was on sale.
The End
I got an Antec Earthwatts 500w for 25 bucks at Newegg, was on sale, now its like 80 bucks.
batmAn IVē
Yay! It's up and running. I need a game to test her out with though.
The End
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