Elanzer
May 14 2008, 02:43 AM
New info, nothing particularly interesting but meh:
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* Mini-map has been replaced with a "bread crumb trail;" a dynamic golden line on the ground that directs you to a destination (read: medieval GPS)
* Magic system is divided into focused, single-foe attacks and ranged attacks; attacks can be built up into five levels using various spell combinations
* Speaking of spells, there'll be just eight (but remember, they can be combined)
* Every house in the game is up for sale; each house will unlock a sidequest, item or skill
* Rough estimation: 20-30 times larger than the first Fable [Microsoft says: "a world 10 times the size of the iconic Xbox game"]
* The gameworld features seasons and dynamic weather
* Cutscenes are interactive; the d-pad can be used to issue certain gestures that will steer conversations
* Sex minigame was canned; instead, screen goes dark and moaning ensues (sex can still be unprotected though! Babies, yes; STDs, unconfirmed)
* Female character was almost canned; almost.
* And finally: Three more Fable sequels are being planned. (Lionhead is currently wrapping up Fable 2 and focusing on an announced project.)
It'll be out in winter. The XBLA minigames that allow you to earn gold before starting the main game will be released beforehand.
KingTut
May 14 2008, 07:25 AM
Cant say I really care, but I picked up the original fable and enjoyed it a lot though it made me feel dirty playing it. I think i will wait until this game is in the bargain bin before shelling out for it. There are so many games that are worth my money being released shortly that Fable 2 is just a faint blip on the radar.
Good to know the new info though.
Elanzer
May 14 2008, 10:20 AM
It's not like it's out next week, you've still got around 6-7 months.
Downloaded
May 14 2008, 11:05 AM
I'm really excited about Fable 2. The Dog seems like a pretty cool addition, the graphics are fantastic and I like the idea of being able to buy out every shop and residence in the game. Cities look great and I'm thinking the combat will be cool but not anything too revolutionary. The only thing I'm really kind of skeptical of is the time period being further into the future than I would have expected.
It was actually one of the games that convinced me to buy a 360. I know that sounds stupid considering all the other great games out there but I really did like the first Fable and I'm currently replaying it.
KingTut
May 14 2008, 11:06 AM
Not sure if this was clear but i was reffering to the amount of releases that I want to purchase that come out around the time of Fable 2.
Downloaded
May 14 2008, 11:14 AM
SAVE YO MUNNIES BYATCH
KingTut
May 14 2008, 11:39 AM
meh
Elanzer
May 15 2008, 12:03 AM
It hasn't advanced too far, trusts. Only real difference is they've only got old firelocks now. If you want to compare to 'reality', could be as little ahead as 250 years.
Is nice.
Downloaded
May 15 2008, 08:36 PM
and that's a fairly shoddy example I was watching some demo vids given by good old Peter himself and the graphics were fantabulous. Yeah I know it's not that big of a jump. I never said they were headed for the 21st century or anything but I'm not sure I like guns in the fable environment. I certainly won't judge it till I've got it though and I plan on getting it when it comes out for sure!
Elanzer
May 15 2008, 09:10 PM
Wait, you said that image is shoddy? That's a newer image than the video you speak of, the visuals weren't completed when that was made, this one is only a few days old and the game is now content complete.
And put it this way, if you want to compare the Fable world to the real world then technically they should have had guns in the first game. They won't just change much (just like reality), they'll just be a replacement for the crossbows of the original.
Downloaded
May 16 2008, 10:44 AM
Maybe it's just the computer I'm using to look at it right now then because it seemed to me that those visuals were much more pleasing. I understand what you're getting at as far as guns go. I'd just come to accept the Fable universe the way it was and guns for some reason make it seem a little alien to me.
Like I said, I'm still dead-set on getting it.
Santana Claws
May 16 2008, 06:03 PM
I really enjoyed the first one years ago, I'll consider getting this. I just hope its a lot longer than the first one.
Downloaded
May 17 2008, 08:41 AM
first one took me about 3 days to beat on a break and I'm generally very lazy about playing/beating games past a certain point. If this one can keep me as interested as the last one did then I'd be more than happy to beat it.
Elanzer
May 17 2008, 11:04 AM
Hot tip: Try to 'play' games instead of 'beating' them.
Rifleman
May 17 2008, 11:45 AM
You mean Try to?
Elanzer
May 17 2008, 01:27 PM
Yes, thank you.
Downloaded
May 17 2008, 06:15 PM
if when you say "play" you mean gain as much enjoyment from a game as possible then I generally do do that whether I beat the game or not. Fable was just one of the only games that could keep me engaged all the way through is all I'm saying.
Elanzer
Jun 20 2008, 08:13 AM
Bump. New interview on NPCs.
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IGN: How fully developed are the personalities of these NPCs? Will some nasty fellows be more likely to offer you quests or assistance if you've been playing as a rogue?
Carter: It very much depends on the person we're talking about. Some people only offer you tasks because of things you've done in the past. Some people don't even exist due to things you've done in the past. And, as ever, the whole world will eventually get to hear about what you've done and just what kind of person you are.
IGN: How many NPCs like these three will we run into in Fable 2?
Carter: I don't want to give away too much at this point, but let's just say we've got about 50 hours of recorded dialogue for our NPCs. That's probably more than the entire box-set of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer." And let me tell you, I sat in front of "Buffy" for a long time. With a stop-watch. Just for this interview, you understand.
IGN: Are we likely to run into generic NPCs who don't have any unique interactions…people who in the first Fable would have just been there to impress with trophies?
Carter: As stated previously – we've a huge, huge amount of dialogue, and we've tried to use that mass of audio data to create a mixture of quirky, bizarre, interesting NPCs and other 'normal folk'. However, there are even rewards from interaction with 'normal folk'. We felt we missed an opportunity to tie in the main story gameplay with the simulation in "Fable 1," and I think we've definitely addressed this in "Fable 2."
IGN: Will prominent NPCs (like a mayor, for example) thoughts towards you affect the rest of the populous in that town or is each NPC an individual vessel?
Carter: Each NPC is an incredibly complex mix of personal quirks and tastes (some are definitely questionable). One person will absolutely loathe you because of something trivial, like your taste in clothing, while another will fall for you because of what you stand for. Both their viewpoints are justifiable and 'right', and alter how they react to you. We're actually dedicating a section of the interface to these aspects of a character's personality so you can quickly grasp what makes them tick. We considered adding 'influenced by…' stats as well at one point, but realized that without displaying a rather complex 'social-network' screen, this was going to be too subtle.
IGN: Can I do the old trick of killing a character and then buying the vacant house on the cheap?
Carter: Most definitely – if you're that way inclined. On the other hand, if you're feeling less bloodthirsty, you can become friends with the owner first, so he'll give you a discount on the house price without resorting to premeditated murder. See what a nice game we're making? Try to contain your bloodlust!
IGN: If I play as a good hero, will my dog recognize Arfur as a rogue and growl at him?
Carter: No – the dog's an extension of your hero's personality in the world (mixed with how you've treated him). If you're working with Arfur, your dog realizes that this means you're an evil, slimy rat-bastard yourself, so he doesn't want to get in the way of any potential business dealings. He takes his cues from you. But if you threaten Arfur, he'll growl too… if you've trained him to do so.
IGN: You say Arfur is a "seedy" character. If I plant an Arfur, will it grow into an Arfur tree?
Carter: What's that? An acorn joke? To a "Fable" developer? You really are evil!
Downloaded
Jun 20 2008, 08:19 AM
I really am very, very excited about Fable 2... for SO many reasons.
Elanzer
Jun 25 2008, 12:29 PM
Another dev diary. Lots of easter eggs hidden within too.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/35484.html
Downloaded
Jun 25 2008, 12:38 PM
You guys may not be excited about this release but this is probably the game I'm looking most forward to in all of '08.
[EDIT]
Do we like the idea of not dying in Fable 2?
batmAn IV²
Jun 25 2008, 08:10 PM
I can't say I like OR dislike it.
I mean...eh...the first game was easy enough, and you COULD die...now what's going to happen? We'll see I guess. Still totally pumped.
Downloaded
Jun 25 2008, 09:34 PM
I swear, you're the only other person on the forum. First game was way too easy, but awesome, I hope they counter-balance the no dying SOMEHOW.
Elanzer
Jul 11 2008, 11:30 PM
New nuggets.
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Good and Evil expanded. There are four traits to consider now, with purity/corruption and kindness/cruelty determining your overall character, as well as changing your appearance. Those stained by corruption will find their teeth turning crooked and yellow, to give one example.
No HUD. In an effort to streamline the experience as much as possible, Fable 2 won't have a HUD.
No cutscenes. Non-interactive cinematics take up less than five minutes of game time.
No more bumpkins. The voice acting has been kicked up a couple of notches, as Fable 2 moves away from the country bumpkin speak of its predecessor. Stephen Fry is one of the confirmed voice actors.
Expansion on alignment is something I really want in games, I wish they just used the D&D system sometimes but this is certainly a massive improvement over just good or bad. No comment about cutscenes or HUD, doesn't bother me or impress. But most importantly, voice acting. Stephen Fry is God, but...
I WANT MY WEST COUNTRY BUMPKIN VOICES BACK. Fucking chicken chasers. Let us take a minute aside from our lives to
remember them now.
"You don't look like a Chicken Chaser to me, then again I haven't met one before...""There's something about the name chicken chaser that makes you sound like a cock" Genius. RIP old Fable.
Downloaded
Jul 12 2008, 10:12 AM
QUOTE(Elanzer @ Jul 12 2008, 02:30 AM)
New nuggets.
Expansion on alignment is something I really want in games, I wish they just used the D&D system sometimes but this is certainly a massive improvement over just good or bad. No comment about cutscenes or HUD, doesn't bother me or impress. But most importantly, voice acting. Stephen Fry is God, but...
I WANT MY WEST COUNTRY BUMPKIN VOICES BACK. Fucking chicken chasers. Let us take a minute aside from our lives to
remember them now.
"You don't look like a Chicken Chaser to me, then again I haven't met one before...""There's something about the name chicken chaser that makes you sound like a cock" Genius. RIP old Fable.
I totally agree to the voices, they added a great light-hearted humor aspect to Fable that I really like. If all the bumpkins are replaced with stuck up intelligent ass holes it would take the game experience down several notches for me.
Dunno who Stephen Fry is.
One reason I suspect they're doing away with the HUD is because they want your doggy friend to be big part of the game. I guess they've put a lot of effort into his AI and he's supposed to act like your map (maybe I should say guide).
What do you mean by the D&D system?
I kind of saw the allignment expansion coming for a while, they'd been hinting about being "noble" and "greedy" which aren't traits directly associated with good/evil, saying that they would also affect your appearance and the way those around you react.
Elanzer
Jul 12 2008, 11:34 AM
I suppose you don't know who Hugh Laurie is either?
You're overhyping the dog a little, it's not that great.
And yes D&D alignment. You have seen it before:
Downloaded
Jul 12 2008, 01:12 PM
P-Mol is the one drawing all the attention to the dog, I'm just repeating what I've seen and adding what I think based on that. It makes sense that if they want the doggy to be your guide they're not going to put in a minimap. I just hope it doesn't mean that I'll constanly have to pause and look on the big map if the dog ends up being a massive failure. Lionhead appears to be really proud of the dog though.
Elanzer
Jul 12 2008, 02:34 PM
I wouldn't say so, I've seen almost nothing on it in a long time.
WolfXI
Jul 12 2008, 04:02 PM
A LITTLE BIT OF FRY AND LAURIE.
Downloaded
Jul 12 2008, 07:56 PM
QUOTE(Elanzer @ Jul 12 2008, 05:34 PM)
I wouldn't say so, I've seen almost nothing on it in a long time.
well yeah, they can't JUST talk about the dog.
Elanzer
Jul 12 2008, 08:17 PM
That's because there's not much to say. It acts as something similar to the Y button in Gears of War. AMZANIG.
Downloaded
Jul 12 2008, 08:37 PM
That's being a little unfair though, you have NO control over the dog. He reacts to the environment according to whether or not he deems it safe (if it's been explored before or not), if it seems you want him to explore, or if he feels you need a buddy close by. He also attacks and defends without command.
The Y button in Gears was more of an "oh look!" function.
Elanzer
Jul 12 2008, 10:38 PM
I wouldn't say it has anything to do with the HUD removal though, it's not a talking dog, it doesn't tell your health or how much 'magic' you have left, it's certainly not a map, all it does is point out things in the environment and vaguely assist in combat really.
Anyway, where the fuck is Tut?
Downloaded
Jul 13 2008, 07:52 AM
ENGLAND! He'll be back soon-ish I think.
It's supposed to be your main exploration tool/guide though and if you're got to spend your valuable resources fixing him up after battle he'd better have some effect, right?
Downloaded
Jul 13 2008, 05:48 PM
A walkthrough of the multiplayer aspect composed of two videos, once the first one is done it should automatically send you to the second but just incase something goes wrong I'll post links to both.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30760.htmlhttp://www.gametrailers.com/player/30763.htmlLooks fun BUT, I'm mad that it seems they've added just enough HUD to make the dog unnecessary.
Elanzer
Jul 13 2008, 06:10 PM
Those are quite old.
Downloaded
Jul 13 2008, 07:22 PM
I know. They hadn't been posted and I thought they gave a good example of multiplayer which we haven't yet seen.
Elanzer
Jul 14 2008, 10:20 PM
Downloaded
Jul 15 2008, 06:50 AM
Did fable just go MMO?
I love it.
[EDIT]
Also, new trailer:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36280.html
Elanzer
Jul 15 2008, 11:40 AM
Of course it's not an MMO, it just shows you if your friends are playing nearby.
Downloaded
Jul 15 2008, 12:41 PM
I know, I was saying that I like this game more and more... it's neat that you can see people with their Albion orbs.
Elanzer
Aug 11 2008, 05:46 PM
Masterchiefs in my Fable 2?
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A Collector's Edition will be released with the game on release date. The Collector's Edition features :
- 1 Amaray case with Game
- 1 Bonus Xbox DVD: Videos, New Making-of Feature, Roaming Hobbe short, Concept art viewer
- 1 approx 2” Qee Hobbe figure w/ two accessories
- 5 printed Fate Cards
- 1 token card for in-game content (downloadable over Xbox LIVE), including "Minstrel Chief", a cameo from the star of the Halo series, a free Legendary Weapon for the game called 'The Wreckager', and access to a dungeon called the 'Hall of the Dead'
- 1 LIVE trial card – 48 hours
Also, achievements:
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The Paragon -15g
Reach 100% Good or Evil.
The New Hero -50g
Defeat your first great opponent.
The Whippersnapper -25g
Collect 5 gold pieces during the Hero's childhood.
The Pooch Pamperer -5g
Play fetch with your dog.
The Archaeologist -5g
Dig up something your dog has discovered.
The Dog trainer -5g
teach your dog a trick.
The persuader -5g
Convince a villager to give you a present.
The Show-off -5g
Impress a villager with a perfect expression.
The Romantic -10g
Take a villager on a perfect date. You will need the right location and expression.
The spouse -10g
Marry a villager.
The Parent -10g
Have a child.
The hunter -5g
Kill a sweet, innocent, fluffy bunny rabbit (remember, safety's off!)
The Gargoyle -25g
Find the gargoyles Legendary Treasure.
The Chicken kicker -5g
Kick a chicken a respectable distance. As if kicking chickens was remotely respectable.
The Cliff Diver -5g
Cliff dive 500 feet.
The Workhorse -10g
Get a high enough chain while performing a job.
The Hero of Many names -5g
Change your heroes title.
The Teaser -5g
Get bandits to respond to expressions with fear, anger, mirth, and confusion. During combat!
The property magnate -10g
Sell a property for twice the price you paid for it.
The Rogue -5g
Steal something undetected from a building while there are people nearby.
The Illustrated hero -5g
Tattoo every part of your hero's body.
The Executioner -10g
Sacrifice 10 people in the Temple of Shadows.
The Gambler -10g
Win 500 gold at a pub game in one sitting, having tried each game type at least once.
The Bigamist -10g
Get married a second time, whilst still married to your first spouse.
The Swinger -5g
Take part in a orgy, responsibly.
The Pied Piper -10g
Start a party where at least 5 villagers are dancing.
The Party Animal -10g
Get 15 villagers drunk in under three minutes.
The menace to Society -5g
Commit an act of public indecency.
The Black Knight -10g
Shoot the weapons from a hollow man's hands, blow off his head and then kill him for good!
The Duellist -10g
String together a full-speed chain attack.
The highwayman -10g
Hit 3 enemies with one shot.
The Archmage -10g
Kill 5 human enemies with one spell.
The Ruler of Albion -100g
Increase the value of your real estate holdings to over 2.5 million gold!
The Hoarder -25g
Collect every silver key.
The Goth -5g
Dye your hair black, wear an outfit made entirely out of black clothes, and wear some black makeup.
The Completionist -50g
Get all expressions, pet tricks, titles and abilities.
The Extremist -15g
Reach 100% purity or corruption.
The celebrity -50g
Reach 50,000 Renown.
The Artisan -10g
Succeed at one job to Level 5
The Dollcatcher -10g
Collect all the hero dolls.
The Muse -5g
Inspire the Bard to compose songs celebrating your great deeds.
The Companions -10g
Perform a perfect co-op expression.
The blood brother -10g
Get a co-op combat bonus.
The Philanthropist -10g
Send a gift to an xbox live friend.
The Hero of strength -100g
Complete the Hero of Strength.
The hero of Will -100g
Complete the Hero Of will.
The hero of Skill -100g
Complete the hero of Skill.
The Sacrifice -25g
Choose "The needs of the many".
The Family -25g
Choose "The needs of the few".
The Egomaniac -25g
Choose "The needs of the one".
At least 3 endings, bigamy, orgies, public indecency, and chicken kicking, This is my kind of game.
Downloaded
Aug 11 2008, 05:50 PM
how much? do want.
Elanzer
Aug 11 2008, 05:55 PM
Probably the usual £10-20 more.
Edit: Oh, seems it's only £5 more. I'm tempted.
Downloaded
Aug 11 2008, 06:25 PM
Me too.
I'm wanting this game more and more... it's release isn't too far off either. I really can't wait.
Elanzer
Aug 12 2008, 01:37 PM
Ok, so the Pub Games are coming to Live tomorrow. As well as being arcade games in themselves, gold earnt in them will transfer into the full game when you get it. There's several ways you can get them.
- On the marketplace tomorrow for 800MS.
- On the game disc when it's released.
- Pre-ordering from the following retailers:
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USA - GameStop, BBY, Circuit, Game Crazy, Amazon
UK - Game
Mexico - Blockbuster and Gameplanet planned
Aus/NZ - EB Games, Game, JB Hi-Fi, Harvey Norman, All Interactive, Dicky Smith
Canada - EB Games and Toys R Us
Netherlands - Bart Smit, 12Game, Xboxhome, Bol
France - Micromania
Switzerland - World of Games, GameStop
KingTut
Aug 12 2008, 02:25 PM
I see nothing but good for this game. Stephen Fry is the closest thing that we have to Jesus. Country Bumpkins will be missed but everything else is fantastic. Now don't pull a Fable one Peter, please.....
Downloaded
Aug 12 2008, 03:49 PM
I have faith in P-Mol for this one. Excuse my naivety but could you please expand on Pub Games? wuts dat?
[EDIT]
Does this mean you might be picking it up Tut? Multiplayer? yeeeee!
KingTut
Aug 12 2008, 04:58 PM
Pub games is similar to Fable 1. They are the mini games in which you bet gold in order to win it. Yes it does, emphasis on might however.
Downloaded
Aug 12 2008, 05:12 PM
superstoked.
thanks for the explanation.
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